Re: BOARD IN ENGLISH

[kabi]

Thank you kabi, i agree with you

You are most welcome dear friend

[Invité]

In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock."
Thomas Jeferson.




Are you agree with this citation ?

[1/4im]

In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock."
Thomas Jeferson.

Are you agree with this citation ?

it may be true in some cases but sometimes when style matters are against our principes or values we can't swim with the current

[emy]

In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock."
Thomas Jeferson.




Are you agree with this citation ?

I completely agree, in fact, if we are interested in the questions of style, the style is always changeable in time and circumstances varied of way of life but the principal questions remains unchangeable because are the base of our moral sense.

[kabi]

I wanna share with you one of my preferable way of meeting people (talking English/French) : The University of the Streets Café.

The University of the Streets Café creates gathering places for community members to pursue lifelong learning and engagement in the form of collective discussions. They are an opportunity for people of diverse backgrounds and socio-economic realities to meet, where all people and perspectives are welcome.

(Je voudrais partagé avec vous une de mes préférables façon de rencontrer des gens (parlant Amglais/fraçais) :les cafés-rencontres de l'université-autrement .

L'Université autrement : Dans les cafés crée des lieux de rencontre et les met à la disposition des citoyens intéressés à continuer d'apprendre ou d'approfondir leur engagement à la faveur de discussions publiques et collectives. Ces cafés permettent à des individus de divers horizons et réalités socio-économiques de se rencontrer, dans un cadre où tous les gens et toutes les perspectives sont les bienvenus. )

The next Upcoming Events is entitled: Montreal open city

About the discussion
This is a work in progress. A group of citizens from different fields (technology, civic engagement, environmentalist, urban planners, artist, etc...) are gathering to discuss how to go about bringing members of the community together to imagine how an 'open city' should look like and organize to make it happen.
The University of the Streets is taking part of this imagining process as for us an open city is a learning community where people share knowledge, information and ideals of the space the want to live in.
If you are interested in being part of this please visit the website: http://www.villeouverte.ca
Montreal an open city: sharing information for a vibrant and healthy community.

What if?
* You could access information of future developments in your neighborhood?
* You could easily find out your daily environmental footprint or monitor the ecological health of your burrough?
* You could know how many 'cafes' there are in your neighborhood as you go about planning your new business venture?
* You could learn the main concerns of your neighbors as you intend to present your candidacy to the next election?
In a nut shell, what if you could access the information to act upon the dreams and ideals you have for your city, your community and yourself within them.

Why?

Information is the basic component for knowledge, learning, adaptation and consequent action. Within a democratic society; open, self-regulated, free exchange and access to information fosters civic engagement, cooperation and healthy community economic development nurturing a vibrant culturally rich environment. The above beholds the promise of empowering everyone (citizens, organizations, businesses and institutions) to better act in any and every area that concerns their welfare, well-being and self-actualization.

What?

The required tools and policies need to be in place to share information more effectively, transparently and universally accessible for every member of our society.

How?

Through an open and self-managing event 'Montreal's democracy camp' welcomes 60 active members of our community to reflect, imagine and organize towards the innovation of tools and policies to better share and use information.


Date: 26/05/2007 - 09:00 - 26/05/2007 - 16:30
Modérateur: Gerardo Sierra | MichaelLenczner |

(Le prochain événement est intitulé Montréal, ville ouverte: Partager l'information pour une ville équitable et dynamique
Imaginez…
* Que vous puissiez avoir accès à de l’information sur des développements futurs dans votre quartier…
* Que vous puissiez obtenir facilement votre impact environnemental ou la santé écologique dce votre arrondissement…
* Que vous puissiez connaître le nombre de cafés dans votre quartier afin de planifier vos rencontres d’affaires…
* Que vous puissiez connaître les principales préoccupations de vos voisins afin de mieux préparer votre candidature aux prochaines élections…
Bref, imaginez que vous puissiez avoir accès à l’information dont vous avez besoin pour d’agir selon les rêves et les idéaux que vous avez pour votre ville, votre communauté et vous-même.
Pourquoi ?
L’information est une composante essentielle du savoir, de l’apprentissage, de l’adaptation, et des actions qui en découlent. Au sein d’une société démocratique, le libre partage et l’accès à l’information favorisent l’engagement citoyen, la coopération et le développement d’une économie communautaire saine, encourageant un environnement culturel riche et actif. Cette vision tend vers « l’empowerment » de toutes et tous (citoyennes et citoyens, organisations et institutions) leur permettant de s’investir davantage dans tout domaine qui concerne leur mieux-être et la réalisation de leur potentiel.
Quoi ?
Les outils et politiques pertinentes doivent être mis en place afin de partager l’information de manière plus efficace, transparente et universellement accessible à tous les membres de notre société.
Comment ?
Par l’entremise d’une rencontre ouverte et gérée de manière autonome, « le camp démocratique de Montréal » accueillera 60 membres actifs dans notre communauté afin de réfléchir, imaginer et contribuer à la création d’outils et de politiques.
Quand ?
Samedi, le 26 mai 2007, date visée )

[racalt]

Thank you dear kabi for this start

[lion69]

thank specialy for kabi and all our freinds who already have expressed their point of them about this initiative .that i qualify extremly important for a lot of reasons.

the first it give us an opportunity to express ours opinions about diffirents subjects witch are a relation with our immigration project

the second it 's good way to improve our englich language because the parctice is only a method to have agood level


the third as kabi we said at the meeting of casa the commercial relation between quebec and other régions of canad and usa is doing by englich

so this reasons and anothers( studying ; chopping pass th examen ) show the importance of this language without complex some times i found difficults to explain the meaning of soome word and also i feel very anxious
ul but when i use adictionnary a i found the word i became very happy

you know this search and looking for to explain hte exprsions it improve our vocabulary
dear freind i advice you to love this language becaus without loving it we can' t laearn it


thanks my frein if they are mistakes et i think they are plaese i demand you to coorect it.

[lion69]

there are et non they
find et not found

[kabi]

First of all I really thank you so much Lion69 for your contributions ; Let me suggest some corrections :

thank Especially for kabi and all our friends

who have already expressed their point (without adding " of them " because you used "their".. it's a redundancy on the phrasal )

this word don't need the " S " at the end:
I found difficults : the pluriel is difficulties

you know this search and looking for explanation (or explaining) the expressions _ improve our vocabulary (without using the personal subject " it " )

[kabi]

Sharing Stories Across Generations
Date: 31/05/2007 - 17:30 to 20:00

This conversation is organized in partnership with: Santropol Roulant

Our Guest Speaker for this conversation will be Mr. George Balas.

About the discussion
What is the value of sharing stories across generations? What are the spaces and ways these conversations are happening? How can we imagine new ways of sharing stories and to what end?


Partager nos 'histoitres' entre membres de différentes générations
Date: 31/05/2007 - 17:30 - 31/05/2007 - 20:00
Modérateur: Marc Nisbet |
Venue: Santropol Roulant

Notre invité pour cette conversation est M. George Balas.

à propos de la discussion

Partager nos 'histoires' entre membres de différentes générations, qu'est-ce que cela donne? Quelles formes prennent ces échanges actuellement? Y a-t-il d'autres manières de partager nos histoires, nos récits de vie, et dans quel but?

santropolroulant

Adresse : 4050 rue St. Urbain (Coin Duluth); Montréal, QC. H2W 1V3
Tél : (514) 284-9335
Fax : (514) 284-5662
Courriel : info @ santropolroulant.org

[bulls023]

Salam,

Merci cher kabi.

[lion69]

thank my freind kabi for your correction


i feel very happy because this method could to help us to a void mistak in the futur .

so i have received this advice with open heart an i'am very sure that it will be away for our progress and devollopping our level in this intersting language

i demand al our freind acroos this window that mister kabi has opened it to seize this opportunity an involved more in suggesting some subject in order to discuss it together.
thank my reinds
freindly

[kabi]

Sharing Stories Across Generations
Date: 31/05/2007 - 17:30 to 20:00

This conversation is organized in partnership with: Santropol Roulant Our Guest Speaker for this conversation will be Mr. George Balas.

About the discussionWhat is the value of sharing stories across generations? What are the spaces and ways these conversations are happening? How can we imagine new ways of sharing stories and to what end?

It was constructive and funny

Me and dear MEA were like swimming in English area with new people that we met during this wonderful conversation-meeting.


It began by introduction, The moderator Marc NISBET explain the rule and the theme, then the guest Mr. George Balas (a Hungarian writer) began his speech by some parts of his novel he has a rich and varied history, including its indigenous, educational, and family history. As he explained : stories have helped teach, influence, and bind people together.
People around were happy to listen about the grandfather of Mr. George Balas who has explained that it's better to repair the fabulous knife than to buy a new one, it's like an heritage of a history by leaving for him the same knife , at the end he showed us this particular knife, that was amazing !!
He explained that sharing such stories humanize strangers and those different from us and foster empathy, human connections, relationships , and moreover, it open minds and hearts.
Time to time there was some volunteer who helped an old handicapped ladies to eat .. that was so human !!!

After that some person take the speech so as to share and use thoughtful, meaningful fiction and stories from their stories and own experience and that of other people they know.

Younes told us a story while he was in morocco during his experience as technician of computer , he had the duty to learn to a group of person that had used dactylographic rather than PC , so Younes had the challenge to switch their old knowledge to a new one , but the problem is that the group is constituted by 50 old ladies (from 40 to 55 years old ) .

The challenge was difficult because as everybody knows it's hard to make learn old people , and he get such answers :

Old Lady : tell me M. Younes how old are you?
Younes : I am 23 Madame.
Old Lady : So listen to me my dear, before you were born I was working in this company, so it's not to day that you are going to learn me how o work .

We laughed a lot .

But Younes learned from this story that we have during our life to deal with so much people from different age and educational environment so that influence attitudes, behaviour, cultural change and create a climate for unity within diversity .
Thank you Younes.

[kabi]

Then other people talked a lot and had a growing interest in the stories of various ethnic groups, of immigrants, first and second generation Americans, of Arabic and Lebanese Americans, of older people, of women, of any human beings who have lived or are living interesting lives, who have met challenges, who have made or are making notable contributions in their lives.


My point was about the fact that during the time of our grandfathers and grandmothers they were no TV no radio and no PC or internet .. so we met around a big table and our grandfathers and grandmothers tell us sweet and different stories … but nowadays child are focussing around all this technologies so I wonder how can we deal with our future grand-son.
As the Moderator Marc NISBET said :
" Sharing stories can help us to change us and our world for the better.
Because by sharing stories we can learn so much from asking good questions, sometimes tough questions, and really listening, with an open mind and heart. And we can learn from our own story analysis and sharing. Sometimes, when we hear our own words tumble out, whether in person or in print, we understand ourselves--or our families--or our business--or our organizations--or our communities--just a little better.


At the end we share some delicious foods and I talked to people and I had the opportunity to talked to Marc NISBEt for a future meeting with the ÉrableAtalas.
So for the people who are interested just prepare yourself for a sensational first English-meeting of "Érable d'atlas" in the soon future, it may may fill a quiet good evening during the week or week-end with a new event. You are likely to benefit from the presence of a new Canadians people. Most importantly, we will build a bridge of community members to teach and learn from one another, stimulating our own community's development and well being.

[Invité]

Thanks dear Abdelkader .. for inviting me and also for your words above ..

I encourage the idea to met in other meeting those nice peaple .. The topic "Immigrant and the others " looks good .. so, i hope that we will have a lot of erablists there.

[bulls023]

Salam,

I am sorry dear friends, I had work, the next time inchallah I will be with you.

[kabi]

It was all my pleasure dear YOUNES...

Yeah the theme : "Immigrant and the others " seems attractive.

BULLS023, never mind, there will be others and others such meeting

[lion69]

thanks my freind a belkader for this description of meeting
i think it's good think to organise and to participate at this event

so it's occasion to unterstand the other i beleive that this metting can avoid the confusion , the incertainty , the fright .wich was establich in the conscience of many canadien people aftermath of septembre 11th


so i find your senntence extremly important , "we will build a bridge of community members to teach and learn from one another, stimulating our own community's development and well being."
yes i agrre whit you this initiative will be a good result for our integration because this concept means that it's better for us to go towards the other in order to know him and also to involve in the society in parcipating at all the activity cultural politcal economical
this concept also means that we keepp our identidy our costms ....

at the end t tel you my freind good encouragement

[kabi]

Thanks a lot LION69

[donkichote1]

Salam guys;

it s a quick note just to say hi to all of you roomies and tell you guys don't be intimidated because of your english. Believe me your english is much better than most of quebecers i ve met during my stay in here. What we need is more self-confidence, don't forget we (moroccans) belong to a society known for its sarcasm, french culture inheritence unfortunately. And It is high time to get rid of our perfectionism.

I am not trying to drink your bath water,your washing machine water neither ( i like this idom kabi, it sounds funny) but that's what i found out as a substitute french teacher working in different schools in Montreal. I was even asked to substitute for an english teacher at a primary school. I ve never thought before that it could happen: me, substituting for an english teacher, are you kidding? Yes, but i did it even with lame english. You can do it too; just feel free to make mistakes cause it is a good way to learn.

[lion69]

thank donkichot

your advises are very important
so they gives us energy and enthusiasm to learn this beautiful language

i agree with you that all people who has decided to learn englich he musn't be intimidated for alot of reasons:

1the first : englich is not our originel language but it's better for us to learn it

the second : learning englich is factor that it help us to unterstand the other and to know his cultur.

the third: it's a international language witch you find it at different sectors, trade economics politic scientific ....administration

the fourth : this language is teatched across the word for example in france: the french pilitician say that french must take a place as language in the world but more french people speaks englich and it's considered as the second laguage

therfore; why I tell to all guys to take advice donkichot seriously ;
especialy our freind who wait the visa it's time to improve your level in englich im 'a sure that it helps you when you arrive in canada at many domains communication looking for work...at work..

at the end i feel very hapy and proudly when i receive advices from someone whon encourage us to practise englich he push us to to develop our level an d enrich our vocabulry and cramma
.
the probleme is not to make mistake but the problen is not to unterstand the benefit of this language
on day i commite the mistake but after i get rid of it
you know my freind the knowledge doesn't come e at one time
i'am persuasive that practise and practise it's bridge for progress
thank donkichot

[kabi]

Anyone interested for a meeting with English people of montreal?

[Abidou]

salam,
Me, but i don't speak english well!
hadchili 3ta lah

[donkichote1]

Count me among those who are interested in a meeting with your guests.
Good job kabi

[kabi]

Thank you I will contact you as I will be ready

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